The Secret's David Schirmer Exposed on "A Current Affair" (video)

The Secret's David Schirmer Exposed!

The Dark Side of The Secret...

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David Schirmer Confronted by "A Current Affair" Four Weeks later... The Law of Karma?

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Late last year I become aware of the now hugely successful book (and DVD) "The Secret". It's a book that explains how to use "The Law of Attraction" to basically get whatever you want in life and it says the key to getting what you want is to focus your thoughts on what you want (on a consistent basis) and sooner or later it will show up in your life.

This is a concept I couldn't agree more with - and if you don't believe me just spend the next week frowning and being mean to everyone you meet and see what you attract into your life!

But ever since I first heard about "The Secret" (actually "The Secret" the movie as that was what I was first introduced to) I got some pretty bad vibes about it. And I didn't really know why. I checked it out and it all made sense to me (even though it was really no secret to me as there's a multitude of self-help programs already written on The Law of Attraction, notably Earl Nightingale's "The Strangest Secret", Stuart Wilde's Miracles).

And then early this year a healer friend of mine told me how some of his clients had had some very bad dealings with some of the Australian people involved in "The Secret". Again I got this really 'dodgy' feeling about The Secret movie and everything associated with it.

Now it is all starting to make sense to me - it appears that "The Secret" (The Law of Attraction and how to use it in your life to manifest what you desire) is being jumped upon by almost every get rich quick schemer there is! Just do a search on "The Secret" in Google and see what ads come up on the right-hand side - everybody who seems to call themselves a "The Secret" teacher seems to be promising riches beyond your wildest dreams (and how you can get them FAST!).

So that's what's been eating away at me - what I see as the cold hard materialistic side of people who have jumped on "The Secret" bandwagon. It all seems like "What can I get! What can I get - and I'll stop at NOTHING to get it!!". Where's the give?

However... maybe what angers me about what I see as the cold hearted and materialistic side of "The Secret" and all those "The Secret" get rich quick teachers is a reflection of a side of me that I'm denying and refusing to acknowledge... Maybe I have within me my own "You can get rich quick NOW ra ra ra" self that my more New Age side is trying to suppress? Could this be possible?

And who knows... maybe the above news story on David Schirmer is exactly what he needs to throw him into a personal crisis so he can lose all of his material wealth in one colossal downfall and in the process discover his true divine spiritual self?

Or maybe I just think too much. Perhaps I'll leave the last word to the mystical Tao farmer "It is neither a fortune or a misfortune..." (get it!)

:) Beaumont

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724. Julia | 25 Aug 2008 - 20:20

This is just my personal opinion but I believe David Schirmer has absolutely no faith, he apepars to have no concept of faith nor does he appear to have any spirituality in his life despite his frequent claims of being a Christian. I believe he is tormented by the fact that he has failed to achieve well and I also believe that until he understands that faith comes from within from loving yourself as you are and not expecting yourself to be someone who you think other people want and expect you to be and lets not interpret that the wrong way either. I would frankly hate to be in his shoes not just because he appears to owe a lot of people a lot of money which in itself is very unchristian but because I believe he has no idea what peace is. I am convinced that a lot of these people use and interpret the bible and readings in a way that suits their motives .... to get rich. They create around them a group of "followers" who unwitting are supporting this need. That is what I believe is the greatest failing of the secret. It teaches people to interpret life and living any damn well way they please but it does not teach them to love who they are and work hard at what they do so that they know peace and satisfaction in their own lives. How many people have gone out and made ridiculous decisions about buying this or that just to satisfy their WANTS as a result of listening to these people? I bet many have and I also bet that many of those people now face very serious financial hardships as a result and what does that do? It creates hate towards the people who sold them "hope" because it was a false hope. A hope in something that is not real, is not true and has nothing to do with spiritual happiness whatsoever.

Comments welcome.........

715. Poa | 22 Aug 2008 - 01:05

This guys trading edge website is down and the lastest round of lies coming from that place apparently sound something like this:

I honk and lie because I have a ring through my nose and when my boss gets pissed off with anyone asking for something he gives it a rip and I honk right on cue just for him. I say things like the website is down because we are moving office because I hope it will shut people up. How bloody convenient and what a bunch of bullshit. Any company with any worth does not allow their website to go down without good reason and without informing their clients that its about to or making some sort of effort to have a blanky there. I am very suspiscious that the good reason might be that their bills weren't paid and the hosting server got so pissed off with the bills not being paid that they turned it right off at last. With the amount of promises that guy makes he's probably promised to make the web host gazzillionaires also. Another good excuse is that we are giving the website a facelift. Then don't turn the old one off you jerks. You do want to do business don't you?

If anything pisses me off it is lies coming from a two bit company that is selling seminars and courses worth tens of thousands of dollars. It starts alarm bells ringing very loudly.

Wake up and smell reality PLEASE.

710. Anon2 | 20 Aug 2008 - 17:05

Anon, do you know what the most hilarious thing is about all of these guys ..... all you have to do is just wait a couple of months until they start on their damage control tactics yet again because what they are doing doesn't work. It is inevitable that NONE of their attempts to make millions off others when they are not offering anything but false hope, will reward them with anything but negativity. In EVERY situation their intentions are very clear MAKE ME RICH and stuff the suckers who buy from me. Yet the more they do it the more they screw it for themselves and the less and less they earn. Schirmer is now trying to make money out of promoting some health coaching crap. For Gods sake, Schirmer promoting HEALTH COACHING???? The guy is a fat weazel who thinks he's gods gift to mankind so that will be short lived too. Ive been in seminars where the people are sniggering and laughing under their breath at the guy. He comes across as a charmer but is a weak bastard who likes to suck up to the women and use them and other peoples money to make him happy. All you have to do is watch for a while. Give me evidence of where he has really done anything positive??????? I don't see one of his businesses thriving. I don't see anyone supporting him. I don't see any respect for him in the media or the public. I don't see his staff staying long term and really supporting him. Why? Because the guy screws everyone over who he comes into contact with. That can NEVER achieve success or respect therefore he will never know it. They guy has no respect in Australia so how the hell does he think he'll get it overseas. Do you think that Bob Proctor will want him in his territory? I doubt it very much after suing him for misleading and deceptive conduct. Will be interesting to see what happens now but it can only go down from here.

709. anon | 20 Aug 2008 - 08:43

the "relationship masters" website is just another generic new wage cash-in wannabe moron named keith leon. one of a bilion coming out of the woodwork.

leon tried to push a pathetic self-published book last year called somthing like"who do you think you are". you have to admit that was a better title than "who are you REALLY" for if he called it THAT the book would have to be filled with words like "con artist" and "gimmee money".

it was just a collected bunch of marketing brochures from various "life coach" friends of leons pretending to be a book. schirmer of course was one of them and really pushed it, but judging from the lack of interest on amazon (aside from getting a couple of friends to write gushing reviews) the book went nowhere fast.

when the schirmer shit hit the fan leon changed his website to take out many of his fawning references to schirmer. enough that people noticed. cosmic connie followed all of this while it was happening-just search for "keith leon" on her blog if you want to laugh at him and his stupid tries to pretend schirmer didn't exist and other tries at damage control.

if leon is indeed still pushing schirmer knowing what he knows, mister guilty website changer, he is just as guilty and corrupt as schirmer is and deserves whatever negative attention he might get. lets hope its ALOT.

703. disgusted from wa | 16 Aug 2008 - 23:40

Schirmer says on his succeed magazine website :

"You will discover in detail the other techniques David used to change his life as well as how to avoid the pitfalls and how to accelerate the change you want to see in your life"

If these peoples life right now is any indication of what you are supposed to do to become wealthy then anyone who follows their advice has a future that would be pretty frightening. How can someone who has been charged in the Federal court with misleading and deceptive conduct and who is fronting court again now for something else just as serious, who has had to sell the mansion he boasted about owning on every crappy website he had, who lied about taking delivery of a quarter million dollar dining room table he foolishly boasted about on national tv (if he was even ordering it to begin with - probably in his dreams) who has had to move office more times than I have had to pay basic water rates in the last year, whose staff walk out weekly because they probably can't handle the crap and lies, who cannot handle anyone saying anything bad about them, who appear to expect recognition (not need it, expect it!)in order to even wake up, be qualified enough or have the credibility to advise me what to do with my life or tell me that the way I think it not right that I should think like them and then I would succeed in life.

I now find anything that comes from this guy highly offensive. I question what the authorities are doing to stop this sort of offensive manipulative controlling behaviour by people like this who have absolutely no proven qualifications whatsoever yet they seem to be doing a lot of emotional and financial damage.

Imagine the cost to people who believed in them and trusted them for all the damage they have caused by compulsively lying?

Now if you do a websearch on people selling the secret you will find that a lot of websites who mention all of the secret teachers some how omit this guy. Why? It cannot possibly be a mere oversight more likely that they feel that these people are proven to be full of crap and simply selling snake oil.

How much damage to people like this have to do before the authorities sit up and take notice? It seems to be endemic since the secret. Everyone has jumped on the badwagon of selling how to use the secret crap. Yes some of it is very good if you have a need to the material but most people out there selling it are no more than untrained salesmen. They don't appear to have any knowledge of how to apply it in their own lives.

When these people can prove that they are honest, sincere and really understand what they are talking about, that is when they will succeed. They have never succeeded yet because they are clueless as to what they are doing.

698. Karen | 13 Aug 2008 - 20:17

Its a shame because the Bob Proctor products that he sold are very good. I guess you can't always know that the person you are doing business with is really clean and in that case Bob is overseas so he wouldn't have had much of an idea what was really going on until it was too late probably. As for the Schirmer products, I am curious to know how he goes in the current court case against JLF corporation which some have eluded to is about his 7 steps program. I just don't trust the guy any more so it wouldn't surprise me if something comes out that he plagiarised that material too but then I can't judge as I really don't know. I do know what my personal opinion is that if he wins its only because his lawyer has done a good job not because he is totally innocent. I think the only really ok product was his trading home study course and even that seems to have bits of other peoples information in it. Its just a shame that some people think that the only way to get ahead is to use other people when in fact that is the worst thing to do in business. I will be interested to see how the court case unfolds and how he fights it. From what I can see he's had to sell his house and move office so he is stuggling and maybe even not surviving at all now. I feel it is good that he is being brought to justice especially if he has done the wrong thing to other people because you can't expect to be benefit from something like the secret and be screwing people over also. It had to come out and the end result is not up to any of us to judge on but whatever it will be it will be and Schirmer has to live with that. Personally I'd hate to be him right now because he doesnt' seem to be on many peoples christmas card list.

695. Elliott | 12 Aug 2008 - 23:31

Oh you just tuning in? We have known that for a long time. Anyone who makes promises on National tv and doesn't follow through with them is not what they are spruiking that they are. That should be enough to prove they are deliberately lying to the public.

Schirmer will blame whoever he can and he will even make stuff up if it serves his purpose. The guy is completely screwed and he is still going down the same path. I hope he does because it has one end.

It seems that even more of his staff have recently walked out, hmmmm, wonder why? Learnt so much from him that they outgrew their positions huh? CRAP! I phoned the office looking for someone and sure enough they had left too. I don't give a shit what Schirmer says from now on he is a lying bastard in my view and the public should be protected from him.

Wherever he goes from now on he will be haunted by his own actions. I am so tired of the crap that its always he other guys fault that he uses all the time. Get over it you wanker, and look at yourself for a change. You might find some shit to get rid of but it will be worth it.

685. Phillip | 5 Aug 2008 - 16:52

Just looking around the web and came across a terrific comment by someone who has actually been in the clutches of these whacko types:

"Y'know...after having actually been IN one of the Guru-cults often cited on this blog, and also having successfully LEFT it forever about 4 years ago after waking up and smelling the coffee that things were amiss...I've come to one conclusion:

Nearly 100% if not the full 100% of ALL public "gurus" are nothing more than either:

A) TOTAL LOSERS who were unable to find some other creative, productive way to earn their living and thus turned to P.T. Barnum's "sucker born every minute" axiom as their fallback strategy to hoodwink people willing to drink the kool-aid and be hoodwinked,

or

B) Pathologically mental cases and narcissistic PREDATORS who have some deep-seated need to collect minions around them in an inner circle and use them to hurt, rob, or otherwise BREAK stupid yet honest people. Perhaps they became that way through their own abuse or trauma early in life, but it's still unexcusable.

Bottom line: Public "Gurus" are nothing more than society's PARASITES sucking the lifeblood out of people who need real help, not cultic psychobabble, and sucking the lifeblood away from other, more productive and creative energies needed by society and the global economy."

667. Michael B | 31 Jul 2008 - 13:59

1. The Respondents by themselves, their related companies, servants and agents or otherwise be restrained from distributing, promoting, licensing, offering for sale or hire or selling or hiring any goods or services featuring, containing, or identified in any way by use of the words “LifeSuccess” or “Bob Proctor”, or any substantially identical or deceptively similar word or words to “LifeSuccess”;

2. the Third and Fourth Respondents forthwith cause their names to be changed to remove the words “Life Success” and to lodge notices of such resolutions together with applications to change their names within 14 days of the date of these orders at the Australian Securities & Investments Commission;

3. the Fifth Respondent cancel the business name “Life Success Publishing” registered to it by completing and lodging the relevant documentation within 14 days of the date of these orders to Consumer Affairs Victoria;

4. the Second Respondent cancel the domain names lifesuccess.com.au and lifesuccess.net.au by completing and lodging the relevant documentation within 14 days of the date of these orders with Melbourne IT;

5. the Third Respondent cancel the domain name lifesuccesspacificrim.com by completing and lodging the relevant documentation within 14 days of the date of these orders with Godaddy.com;

6. the Fifth Respondent cancel the domain names lifesuccesspacificrim.com.au, lifesuccesspublishing.com.au, lifesuccesspublishing.net.au and youwerebornrich.com.au by completing and lodging the relevant documentation within 14 days of these orders with Melbourne IT.

7. the Respondents by themselves, their related companies, servants and agents or otherwise be restrained from displaying on their business premises or in connection with their business, and on any stationery or promotional or advertising material, the words “LifeSuccess” or “Bob Proctor” or any substantially identical or deceptively similar word to “LifeSuccess”;

8. the Second Respondent remove or do all such things necessary to remove all videos posted by him, or by a person or entity under his control, on the Internet that make reference to any of the goods and services of the Applicant as set out in Exhibit A of the Australia and New Zealand licence agreement between the Applicant and the First Respondent dated on or about 28 June 2003 (the “Licensed Properties”), the Applicant or to Bob Proctor including, but not limited to, the videos posted by him, or by a person or entity under his control, on the websites found at www.youtube.com and http://vids.myspace.com within 14 days of the date of these orders;

9. the Respondents deliver up to the Applicant c/- Dibbs Abbott Stillman Lawyers at Level 8, 123 Pitt Street, Sydney in the State of New South Wales all Licensed Properties in their possession, control or custody, including all master copies of the Licensed Properties within 7 days of the date of these orders;

653. Michael B | 29 Jul 2008 - 20:23

THE COURT ORDERS THAT:

1.The applicant have leave to discontinue the proceeding against the third respondent pursuant to O 22 r 2(1)(d) of the Rules of Court.

2.There be no order as to costs in relation to the proceeding against the third respondent.

3.The applicant have leave to file and serve an amended application and statement of claim, any such amended document to be filed and served on or before 9 May 2008.

4.The Applicant pay the costs of the first and second respondents thrown away by reason of the said amendments.

5.The first and second respondents file and serve their defence or defences on or before 23 May 2008.

6.Any reply by the applicant to the respondents’ defence or defences be filed and served on or before 30 May 2008.

7.The proceeding be referred to mediation pursuant to O 72 of the Rules of Court, such mediation to occur within the 21 days commencing on 14 July 2008.

8.The mediator report the outcome of the mediation to the court on or before
8 August 2008.

9.The proceeding be listed for further directions on 5 September 2008.

10.The parties have liberty to apply.

11.The costs of the applicant and of the first and second respondents be reserved.

620. Anonymous | 30 Jun 2008 - 18:56

I have just read the succeed magazine web site and I have never read so much absolute bullshit in all my life. There are more lies on that site than stars in the night sky and these people wonder why they are having so much trouble doing business. Maybe they could try being honest, ooooooh that might be quite interesting. They are deluded idiots who thinks that the people who attend their courses don't check up on them and see if what they are writing and saying is correct and truthful. The numbers I counted at the seminars they write about were not even remotely the same as what is being quoted and from my investigations they do not have that many income producing businesses unless of course the room was full of invisible midgets that only they could hear working madly on some fake money making exercise. Come on folks, how screwed up do you need to be to fake success. These people are seriously deluded and it just doesn't seem to be registering with them why they are getting the results that they are. Its really quite fascinating to think that some people even worship what these people say and wonder why their lives don't change.

The illusion of delusion.

616. Sharon | 23 Jun 2008 - 18:21

Still stooping to the same low levels of using people to manipulate and gain compassion out of fear. It never ends and I have to agree I think the guy needs locking up to reflect on what he has really been doing.

"Never judge another person's scars, because we don't know how they got them."

You see the problem is that these people believe that they somehow have a god given right to play god judge and jury with other peoples lives when in fact they don't have a clue what they are doing nor do they care what the consequences of their words and actions are. All they care about is saving their own face, making the public believe that they are something and someone that they are not and making money, pretty simple. If that wasnt the case then they would sell up and be the compassionate christians that they spruik about being.

Self comes before a fall they say. I don't think the guy has the balls, wherewithall or courage to take that one small step to real honest freedom. I think his pride is too great it would shatter the image he has of himself. It appears that there are a lot of people out there who don't have the respect or the image of him that he does and no matter how nasty he gets he cannot force anyone to change their minds except by being an example and its too late for that now without starting over. It is his image of himself, he is the judge jury and confidante to himself and that is really very dangerous. Good lesson.

586. Anon | 4 Jun 2008 - 17:13

The last bastion of a conman.

So Schirmer is back into personally intending huh. In other words forcing his interpretation of things and even the bible onto other people because it suits his purpose to make money. The guy is deluded and what he is doing is very wrong especially considering he has been charged with misleading and deceptive conduct and is facing yet another court case and does not have the credibility OR the respect to be quoting the bible. Looks like his friends are a bunch of losers too. How many of them are really wealthy .... er none maybe because they wouldn't be hanging off him if they were. How anything he is proved to have done can be equated to biblical or religious is really deluded. Schirmer does not give a shit about whose lives he treads on to make money and if he can use religion then he will. I reckon he must know that justice isn't stopping so he's trying to face the music quoting bible verses probably to make his accusers some how feel guilty for seeking answers from him. The guy believes he is above the law so what does he expect. He probably thinks he knows the bible better than everyone else too, he's that type of person. Up his own arse about everything he thinks he's an authority on. What a fool.

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